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McCain’s first hand story of being a POW and some of my rants

Ok so I found this at Little Green Footballs:

Its a first hand account of John McCain’s time spent as a POW in Vietnam. I have always known he was s POW but I never knew the actual story behind his time. If you are a McCain supporter, or if you aren’t go read this story. I have taken the liberty of clipping some of the text out of the story, due to the fact a lot of what McCain said then is very relevant today. So we will start here and move forward. The italics is what McCain had to say, and my comments will be in green:

As you may know, back in 1954, the North Vietnamese had a big hand in toppling the French Government in Paris because the French voters had no more stomach for the Vietnam war their Government was waging at the time. That was the way the North Vietnamese won in 1954—they didn’t win in Vietnam.

The French agreed to pull out of Indo-China with no questions asked when they signed the agreement. As a result, they got back just one third of their POW’s.

I’m convinced that Hanoi hoped to win in our case by undermining morale among the people at home in America. They had to marshal world opinion on their side. I remember in 1968 or ’69 [North Vietnam Premier] Pham Van Dong’s speech to the National Assembly, because we were blasted with these things on the loud-speakers. The title of his address was, “The Whole World Supports Us,” not, “We Have Defeated the U. S. Aggressors,” or anything like that.

Now granted there aren’t a large amount of missing or POW troops in Iraq or Afgan, in fact I believe the only missing Solider Staff Sgt. Keith M. “Matt” Maupin has been found . Now I could be wrong on that statement, but lets move forward. If you read McCain’s words from 1973 you will see that the French “lost” the war because the French people got tired of the war. Now this was most likely brought on by anti-war protesters all of the country. Being as that was in 1954, and here we are in 2008 and the same thing is going on here. Anti-war groups are popping up everywhere spreading lies about the war and what is going on over there.

All through this period, the “gooks” were bombarding us with antiwar quotes from people in high places back in Washington. This was the most effective propaganda they had to use against us—speeches and statements by men who were generally respected in the United States. They used Senator Fulbright a great deal, and Senator Brooke. Ted Kennedy was quoted again and again, as was Averell Harriman. Clark Clifford was another favorite, right after he had been Secretary of Defense under President Johnson.

I find it amazing that in the 60’s during the Vietnam war, Senators were speaking out against it like it would not hurt those serving overseas. When the reality was that there words were actually doing the opposite, it was hurting those that were in the POW camps. And the fact that you have Ted Kennedy back then running his mouth against that war and here he is 40 years later doing again. (see my story about term limits, this is a prime example of why we need them!!). The soldiers in Iraq are hearing the same thing today, on a daily basis from the main stream media, from Senators and Congressmen, and even from a Presidential candidate that won’t even go to Iraq to visit the troops and see that the surge is working!!

The only reason why the North Vietnamese began negotiating in October, 1972, was because they could read the polls as well as you and I can, and they knew that Nixon was going to have an overwhelming victory in his re-election bid. So they wanted to negotiate a cease-fire before the elections.

Granted we are not fighting an enemy like the NVA, but the terrorists pay close attention to polls and to stories coming out of the U.S about the was in Iraq. And when they see and hear stories about the surge isn’t working, and there is a candidate that wants to pull the troops out as soon as he gets into office, this makes their will stronger to keep fighting. The AQI want nothing more then for Obama to win in November. With his win they will be able to wait for the troops to be pulled out and sit back and claim defeat against the strongest military in the world. This would not only be a blow to those serving in uniform but it would be a blow to the United States all over the world.

I admire President Nixon’s courage. There may be criticism of him in certain areas—Watergate, for example. But he had to take the most unpopular decisions that I could imagine—the mining, the blockade, the bombing. I know it was very, very difficult for him to do that, but that was the thing that ended the war. I think the reason he understood this is that he has a long background in dealing with these people. He knows how to use the carrot and the stick. Obviously, his trip to China and the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty with Russia were based on the fact that we’re stronger than the Communists, so they were willing to negotiate. Force is what they understand. And that’s why it is difficult for me to understand now, when everybody knows that the bombing finally got a cease-fire agreement, why people are still criticizing his foreign policy—for example, the bombing in Cambodia.


The fact in 1969 Nixon was willing to stand up against the left, to stand up against the anti-war folks, and to see that the war in Vietnam would end the way it should have ended, is an inspiration that the next President needs to have. The fact that McCain in 1973 saw that what Nixon did help with the end of that war, leads me to believe he knows what is best for the course of actions in Iraq. The fact that the left has a candidate that doesn’t understand the military, doesn’t understand that history has a way or repeating itself if not learned, has way to many “friends” that are against this country scares the crap out of me!!

At this particular juncture, after Tet in 1968, they thought they had the war won. They had gotten General Westmoreland [commander of U.S. forces in South Vietnam] fired. They were convinced that they had wrecked Johnson’s chances for re-election. And they thought that they had the majority of the American people on their side. That’s why these guys were speaking very freely as to what their ambitions were. They were speaking prematurely, because they just misjudged the caliber of President Nixon.

Imagine if you will, AQI had not been almost totally destroyed with the surge last year. With that victory and the fact that there was an election happening the following year, and the main Anti-war candidate looked like a shoe in for the President would AQI not be doing the same thing? They would be all over the internet and the main stream media telling each and every one of us that they were winning that the great United States has been defeated, and now that we control Iraq it is time to move towards destroying Israel!!!!

I have heard there was one B-52 pilot who refused to fly the missions during the Christmas bombing. You always run into that kind. When the going gets tough, they find out their conscience is bothering them. I want to say this to anybody in the military: If you don’t know what your country is doing, find out. And if you find you don’t like what your country is doing, get out before the chips are down.

Now a lot of you out there on the left have had your panties all in a bunch about the war, and the fact there is a group IAVW that has certain people in that would rather desert their posts and not follow the commands they took an oath to follow scare the living shit out of me. The fact that McCain who was beaten on almost a daily basis had the courage to stand up for what was right, the courage to realize that he made the choice to fight (granted a lot of folks during Vietnam were drafted, McCain wasn’t nor are anybody that has served or is serving in the military now) . For those soldiers that say the war is wrong, that they “saw” war crimes, or heard about war crimes, or that they aren’t going to go back to Iraq,well here is my question to you: Why the fuck did you join the military? I mean did you think you were going to boy scout camp an get to march around with guns and sing camp fire songs?? I mean give me a break, I joined in 1997, there wasn’t a threat of war then, but I knew that when I signed my name, raised my hand and took the oath that there could be a war at anytime. The world changes to fast for there not to be. Hell there was a war 6 years prior to me enlisting!! So any of you morons at IVAW think that you have ground to stand on, have another thing coming for you. Because if you “saw” these crimes, or you took part in them you time is coming. If you didn’t report them you time is coming. If you are making false accusations to members of congress your time is coming. But what am I kidding non of you are brave enough to stand up, take the stand in a court room or Senate committee room, raise your right hand and take an oath to tell the truth and nothing but the truth!!

Remember, a handful of turncoats after the Korean War made a great majority of Americans think that most of the POW’s in conflict were traitors.

This last passage goes to all of the anti-war troops out there spreading false stories, telling lies about things that supposedly happened! Because of you, because of groups like IVAW you are making those of us that are proud of our service, that went and fought for their country with honor and same gave their lives to insure that the freedoms of this country would live on forever. you are making all of us look like a bunch of renegades, blood thirsty, and willing to do whatever we want as long as we got home. Whenever you decide to speak and if I am around I will make sure to bring my Bull Shit Card to throw out! If you want to make a difference then do it under oath, bring evidence to the table, give names and locations, and dates the things you speak about happened. Until then crawl back under the rocks you came out from, enjoy the college education your country can and will provide for you, and let it go. So you had a rough year in Iraq or you had to do more then one tour, suck it up. The military isn’t a fucking cake walk, and neither is war!!!

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June 9, 2008 Posted by | Uncategorized | , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Congressional & Senatorial TERM LIMITS!

Ok first I have to give credit to 2 different blogs for bringing this light bulb to my mind:

1. Ace of Spades HQ
2. Commentary Magazine Blog

Ok after reading about Pelosi giving credit to Iran with “helping” the surge work, my brain almost exploded and I almost got fired for yelling you “traitor bitch!!”. After calming down I read a that someone left on the commentary magazine blog website. It clearly stated:

  1. David B. Says:
    May 29th, 2008 at 3:01 PM

    This is the perfect example of why this country needs Congressional & Senatorial TERM LIMITS!
    Enough is enough. Why hasn’t all the investigating commitees of Pelosi’s congress looked into her meddeling in world affairs?

Now I have brought this up with a few friends and even my wife, but I have never spoke about it out loud. Well now it is time to. How do we as Americans think that by electing the same people into office over and over and over again will change anything? I mean its like Congress is a permanent Groundhog Day.

I know there are a few in Congress that have done a wonderful job, but i still think that to be able to have a change and make some serious effects to this country, it is time that the government get back to being “by the people for the people”. Instead we have by the people until I die or get tired of being in Congress,or run for President and win/lose! Now i know that Senators do 6year terms and Congress does 2 years. But the President can only do 2, 4 year terms. Does anyone else see an issue with this?

In a perfect world, or at least one that can run efficiently, Senators should do a 4 year term and be limited to 2 to 4 max, set their elections on opposite years of the President. In other words, 2008 we elect the President, 2009 we elect new Senators. Now you can break that down to 50 one year and 50 the next, or all 100 at the same time.Either way after 8 to 16 years max you will have new Senators in office that can bring change to the system. My opinion they should be 2, 4 year terms like the President, and on the same years as the President. That way if a Senator decides to run for President and wins or loses their seat is given up for someone else, and in 4 years if they have another term they can win then they can run again.

As far as the House goes, it should be similar to the Senate, but with different amount of years and terms. Being as now they have an election every 2 years, lets change that to every 3. The term limits would be 4, meaning an even 12 years in the House. These elections can be broken up easily. The first batch would be the same year as a Presidential election, the next batch would be the next year when the Senators are running for office. So to follow the example above, in 2008 50% of the house would run for election, and 2009 the other 50% would run. Then in 2011 the first 50% would run again if they haven’t hit the term limit, then in 2012 the other 50% along with the Presidential and Senate races.

But the biggest thing that pisses me off is how Pelosi can go around and thank Iran for helping out with the surge and saying that because Iran decided to tell the insurgents not to fight, is why the surge worked. Saying shit like that, or going to Syria and meeting with their President after the President of the United States, your bass, tells you not to, should be grounds for Treason charges. Pelosi and the code pinkers, and any other left wing nut case that decides to help the United States enemy’s or the friends of our enemy’s then they should be charged with treason, tried and if found guilty be hung on the White House lawn, and televised around the world on Pay per view or HBO. Sorry for the rant, but there have been to many men and women who have died for this country over the last 200 plus years to give us the freedoms we all love to have a fucking idiot like Pelosi to say that Iran should be thanked, or to have her hanging out with the president of Syria. Not only is it a slap in the face to those men and women who died, currently serving,or have served, but it should be a slap in the face to every American. How can we expect to “change” the government if our hands are tied? Someone please tell me how??

Not I am not 100% sure but I believe that serving one’s country in the Senate or House isn’t something that was suppose to be a career, but something one does to give back to our country, and when that time is up, they go back home to whatever it is they were doing and go about their lives. If it was meant to be a lifelong venture they would not have put term limits on the President. before the 22nd Amendment in the Constitution, all of the President’s that came after George Washington only served 2 terms out of respect for Washington. Washington did not want to serve more then 2 terms because he was satisfied with the job he did and did not want to serve anymore terms. Because he was such a great man and leader every other President followed suit until FDR was elected to 4 terms in the 30’s and 40’s, and 2 years after his death did the 22nd pass Congress and ratifies in 1951. 6 years after FDR’s death. So why can’t Congress fall into this as well??

If we are going to change the way the country is lead and how the government is ran we need to get rid of all the shit that is in Congress and start new every 4 years. Then maybe then we might actually see some sort of change for once

May 29, 2008 Posted by | Uncategorized | , , , , , , , | 6 Comments

Vets on the Hill 2

Well it has been a few weeks since the event in DC, but I just know have a chance to write about the event. This time the event was much larger and more successful then last Sept. Luckily no one was assaulted this time! Well the best place to start would be on Sunday and move on from there:

The event got kicked off with the state captains getting together in the hotel bar for a few drinks and to sit around and tell old war stories and talk about the events going on for the weekend, and hopefully how events might play out over the course of the next year. We then took a ride on the Vets for Freedom bus to dinner at an awesome Italian place. On the bus I was lucky to meet a guy that by all means every red blood American should met: Uncle Jimbo from Blackfive

The dinner was awesome, after dinner a group of us got a lovely tour of Virginia and Maryland trying to get to a party that was being thrown by Army Aviation Society. Its was at some new club that was in Maryland, hence the tour of Maryland and Virginia, the cabbies didn’t know where this place was. After the party we went to another bar to finish the night off, so all in all it was a fun and entertaining night. The next morning was somewhat interesting, having a hang over and trying to put together over 400 packets for all of the Veterans that were coming into town for the event. Afterwards we were able to catch up on some sleep and meet the delegates from our states as they came in.

Monday night wasn’t as much fun as Sunday, well at least not for me. A group of us had a nice dinner at Ruth Chris, then afterwards went to the hotel bar to mingle with everybody. Having leaned my lesson from the event last Sept I knew that I needed to get all of my things together because it was going to be an early morning. So i turned in early just to stay up to watch the Memphis Tigers give the national championship to Kansas, so like i said it wasn’t as much fun as Sunday.

Tuesday morning started out really really early with a breakfast. At the breakfast we had former head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Myers speak at our breakfast, then we had the Georgetown Mens Basketball Coach, Coach John Thompson III. We also had the low down for the events of the day given to us by Pete Hegseth and Joel Arends of VFF. After breakfast we all load the buses to take us to Union Station were we all walked together to Upper Senate Park for the rally that was being held. During this rally we had the fortunate to hear from Sen McCain, Sen Lieberman, Sen Graham, and many more Senators and Congress Persons.

After the rally the over 400 veterans from all 50 states went to the hill to meet with our Senators and Congressman and talk to them about the fight going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. we asked them all to listen to the testimony of Gen Petraeus on the hill ans to let the troops on the ground keep the fight going and to “Let them Win!”

I was fortunate to have a face to face meeting with Senator Lincoln of Arkansas and with Congressman Boozman, Arkansas 3rd District congressman. The first meeting was with Congressman Bozzman, he has been a full supported of the troops in Iraq and a supporter of the mission in Iraq. I spoke with him in Sept. This meeting I was lucky to have one of the founders of VFF to join me, Mark Seavy, better know as TSO at Sniper

After the meeting ith Boozman, I had a meeting with Sen Lincoln’s office. The meeting went on for about 10 minutes with myself and with Sen Lincoln’s veterans affair person. After about 10 minutes the Sen joined us, even thought it was for a short period of time, she manged to make it very clear to me that she does not support the mission in Iraq, nor does she support the troops like she claims she does. Her and I had a heated discussion about the events in Iraq and how in my eyes, and the eyes of the commanding General of Iraq the surge was and is working in Iraq and how the government of Iraq have also made political gains even thought the Democrats say they haven’t. Sen Lincoln’s main stance was that the political gains weren’t being made, which I had to inform her that not only they were being made but I had to give the examples of what was being done. O course she wanted nothing to do with that, even after I told her that the Iraqi government was able to do something that not even her or the other 99 senators and 435 Congresspersons were not able to do, that make a balanced budget. Well after that I could tell she was getting heated, and I was as well, so to be the better person I told her that we will have to agree to disagree. After that meeting I had a long trip to the airport and home, and during that trip I was thinking about something the Sen said to me that stuck out like a sore thumb: ” I fully support our troops, i will make sure they have what they need, but the surge is not working and we need to leave now”. Now let me get into this statement in greater detail.

How can a person in the same breath say they support the troops but then say the same troops they “support” aren’t getting the job done? Is it me or does that sound idiotic? To support the troops means to give them everything thy need to fight, everything they need to survive while fighting, and to give them 100% support here at home. Support isn’t saying you support them and then turn around and play arm chair general from the comfort of your air conditioned office in DC and try to put a time table on when the troops should come home. All that does is play into the hands of the enemy and gives them hope that we will turn and run with our tails between our legs. It gives the enemy the support they need to continue to fight because the people that we elect to make the laws and to keep Americans safe are in fact acting in a way that can be compared to Treason against this country. It is up to every American over the age of 18 to look at the issue at hand and make the correct decision on who they vote for.

I will get off of my soap box now and thank the other person from Arkansas that attended the event with me, Mr. Wayne Bowen. I would like to thank him for taking time out of his busy schedule and go to DC. Hopefully at the next event the Arkansas Chapter will have a bigger and better showing.

May 1, 2008 Posted by | Uncategorized | , , , , , , | 2 Comments